FLASH: MM Please Respond: Flash 4 Developers' Future to be Crippled byAOL/Netscape NEGLECT? (Netscape/FlashPlugin *ongoing* SNAFU'S) [was: RE:FLASH: OT: Macromedia upgrades . . for Troy]

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>Troy thank you for your checking on this.

>I apologize immensely.  It appears to be

>a netscape issue.  When downloaded and

>installed (vers 4.72) with shock support,

>it seems to come packed with a Flash 3

>player.  It doesn't seem to like updates

>to Version 4 even if the class file is

>deleted first, as it continues to be

>a flash 3 player no matter what. The only

>way around it was to delete and reinstall

>without shock/flah support and then update

>it through Macromedia.  I feel sorry for

>netscape users as they wont be able to

>enjoy a Flash 4 site unless they are

>somewhat savvy enough to figure out there

>is a problem or how to fix it.  =(  even

>if they download the latest version.


MAJOR QUESTION HERE:


>wouldnt this be a major concern to

>macromedia being how prepackaged browsers

>is so important to developers?


*****YYYYYEEEEESSSSS!!!!!*****


MM will you please confirm or deny:


Is AOL/Netscape TOTALLY ANTAGONISTIC toward ALL Flash 4 Developers?


(That's a *bunch* of us!)


If you (MM) have any information indicating that AOL/Netscape has NO 

INTEREST in keeping up with current Flash players, it would CERTAINLY 

help us make our future career decisions accordingly, if you would be 

so kind as to advise us!


NO AOL/NETSCAPE SUPPORT FOR FLASH PLAYER? = CRAPPY FUTURE FOR US ...


... and makes LiveMotion/SVG appear to be a MUCH BETTER 

"alternative", all things (especially our future career interests) 

considered.


Please help out with this concern.


If MM is NOT WILLING to keep on top of this issue, we are all 

ultimately SCREWED as Flash Developers, IMO.


Hoping not to feel "squeezed toward" LiveMotion!


Thank you.


Respectfully,


Ken Sherwood


p.s. I will FWD to AOL/Netscape copies of (appropriate portions of) 

this post, as I locate appropriate email addies. (Anyone know of any 

"valuable" ones, please email me. Thanks.)


>~daniel

>

>

>-----Original Message-----

>

From: Troy Evans [kiwimacromedia [dot] com (mailto:kiwimacromedia [dot] com)]

>Sent: Friday, April 07, 2000 2:08 PM

>

To: flasherchinwag [dot] com

>Subject: RE: FLASH: OT:Macromedia upgrades

>

>

>Hi Daniel

>

>Since this instance was reported yesterday we have checked our download

>center to make sure we are indeed delivering the correct

>versions of the player.  And this is what I can confirm

>

>Mac 68k, Version 3.0r8

>Mac PPC, Version 4.0r27

>Windows 3.1, Version 3.0r10

>Windows 95/98/NT/2000, Netscape Plug-in compatible browsers, Version

>4.0r28

>Windows 95/98/NT/2000, ActiveX control for MSIE, Version 4.0r28

>(4,0,28,0)

>   -- served by English, French, German and Japanese triggerpages

>Solaris, Version 4.0r12

>IRIX, Version 4.0r12

>Linux, Version 4.0r12

>

>And this is for the below link

>http://www.macromedia.com/shockwave/download/index.cgi?P1_Prod_Version=S

>hockwaveFlash

>

>Have you installed any other installers prior to this?

>Netscape smart update?

>Have you tried downloading the Netscape 4.7.2 fresh and trying to

>replicate the below?

>Any more detailed information would be greatly appreciated :-)

>

>Regards

>Troy Evans

>Flash Player Product Marketing Manager

>

>-----Original Message-----

>

From: ownerchinwag [dot] com [ownerchinwag [dot] com]On">mailto:ownerchinwag [dot] com]On Behalf Of Daniel

>Votino

>Sent: Friday, April 07, 2000 1:48 PM

>

To: 'flasherchinwag [dot] com'

>Subject: RE: FLASH: OT:Macromedia upgrades

>

>

>sorry jd . . the problem is in netscape 4.72

>if you install it with shockwave support from the first install . .

>it is a version 3 and will not change from version 3 if you install a

>newer version as i did many times.  i had to take it off my sytem

>completely and then reinstall  . . with the shockwave support box

>unchecked and then do an install of the flash player from macromedias

>site.  not a macromedia problem . . but it would be nive if the latest

>versions of netscape came packaged with the latest versions of flash

>player.  =(

>

>~d

>

>-----Original Message-----

>

From: jdowdellmacromedia [dot] com [jdowdellmacromedia [dot] com (mailto:jdowdellmacromedia [dot] com)]

>Sent: Friday, April 07, 2000 1:31 PM

>

To: flasherchinwag [dot] com

>Subject: RE: FLASH: OT:Macromedia upgrades

>

>

>At 5:04 PM 4/6/0, Daniel Votino wrote:

>>John, since you are here, may I ask you to address the thread named . .

>>"WHAT IN THE LIVIN BEGEES!?  Netscape 4.72 downloading a FLash3 Plugin

>>from Macromedia??"

>

>Sorry, I can't imagine a plausible way you might be perceiving an older

>player distribution either.

>

>I'm not denying what you're seeing... just saying I can't create a

>plausible path to get there from the mere symptom presentation, sorry.

>

>jd

>

>

>

>

>

>

>John Dowdell, Macromedia Tech Support, San Francisco CA US

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