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Subject: RE: Talking about Bandwidth-Some People Are Missing The REAL ISSUE
From: Sue Wong
Date: Thu, 21 May 1998 17:05:28 +0100


I agree!
When great artists like Caravaggio and back to Giotto went beyond
the norm and pushed the envelope they did not car if society got, only
that they severed their creative genius.
Greater Bandwidth is coming and will be before you know it. In fact I am
taking some CS graduate courses here at UCD and I can tell you that by
next year this campus as well as the Boulder main campus will be on
Internet 2. But many of my family in California already have cable
modems, sat/PC Direct hookups, not the ADSL that thepoet mentioned (very
nice name thepoet,you are looking to get the girls right?)
Anyway, I will tell you that if you set your design limits on a standard
that will be quickly gone, for most people, then you are what we call in
Chinese a 250.

Besides, perhaps the people you want to reach have these types of
speeds. And you wish to block out those that don't, (i.e. the mass
market)...creating large size Flash files or other media is a very smart
and strategic method to employ.

If you are looking to satisfy the larger market then it is wise to make
the files small. But those who think beyond today's limitations will be
tommorows Gabocorps!

xiajian

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>Subject: RE: Talking about Bandwidth-Some People Are Missing The REAL
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>A lot of people seem to be focusing on the wrong perspective in the
>connection speed/bandwidth discussion going on. Let's try to shift to
>another perspective here for a minute.
>
>Supply & Demand
>We all know this theory. If a need or a demand for a certain service,
>product, whatever, is generated or discovered, industry kicks in and
>increases the supply. At the same time, prices for the "whatever"
usuall=
>y
>drop as manufacturers and providers begin to compete for your $$.
>We have witnessed this on grand scales repeatedly over the years:
>
>--I bought a VCR in 1984 when they were "new" for $700! Today, you can
g=
>et
>one 10 times as good as the one I bought for $150.
>--I purchased a 166mhz desktop when they were state-of-the-art for
$2100.
>This morning, I saw one advertised with 2 times the RAM (Compaq Deskpro
2=
>000
>sans monitor) for $499!!!
>--Consider the hard drive industry....Good God....6.4 gigs for $249????
>Imagine this 5 years ago!!!
>--My dad purchased an RCA 19" color TV in 1975 for $800. Today you can
g=
>et
>an awesome 31" high res TV with stereo sound for that price.
>
>What I am getting at here is this...
>Don't gripe that developers/designers are producing content that you
can'=
>t
>access. We should be begging EVERYONE to create content in this
fashion.
>Make it bigger, more beautiful, more interactive, HUMONGOUS. If a
majori=
>ty
>of websites are inaccessible to low speed connection households or
>businesses, the technology giants will be literally SPEWING new, LOW
COST=
>,
>high speed connections for the general public and they will be BEGGING
yo=
>u
>to take it. DON'T HOLD IT BACK. Create the demand...the industry will
>provide the supply... AND they will do it on OUR terms.
>
>
>>
>> Yes that may be true, however because the majority of the people on
the
>> internet today are on older connections, what I mean is 14.4,
>> 28.8 and 33.6
>> connection file size is still a big issue. In fact the ADSL is not
even
>> available in some areas here in Washington and Cable modems are not
>> available in all areas. I can't get on to cable modem until next year
w=
>hen
>> they upgrade the existing cable lines. So please don't expect
everyone =
>is
>> going to have fast connection.
>> Jester_boy
>> "Keep your eyes on the prize!"
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Thepoet [SMTP:thepoetatmci2000 [dot] com]
>> Sent: Wednesday, May 20, 1998 3:21 PM
>> To: flasheratshocker [dot] com
>> Subject: Talking about Bandwidth
>>
>> Recently many people were talking about movie sizes being too large
>> at 500k
>> etc. Currently this is true for most people, BUT, the situation is
>> beggining
>> to change in many places in the country. For example here in
>> Colorado and
>> Arizonia as well, the local RBOC-US Worst ...er... West
>> is starting up their ADSL
>> Here is a price comparison of their services. Please note that the
>> $40.00
>> per moth price includes use of the ADSL modem IF you use US Worst
>> for your
>> ISP (an additional 19.95 for unlimited access)
>> from http://www.uswest.com/com/customers/interprise/dsl/pricing.html
>> in case
>> you want more info.
>>
>> The following prices are based on a one year contract. Pricing state
>> to
>> state may vary. Product Per
>> month fee Initial
>> set-up fee ATM OAL*
>> Per Month Install
>>
>> MegaLine (256k) $40 $110 n/a n/a
>> MegaOffice (512k) $62.40 $110 n/a n/a
>> MegaBusiness (768k) $76.80 $110 n/a n/a
>>
>> MegaBit:
>> 1 M down 1 M up $120 $110 n/a n/a
>> 4 M down 1 M up $480 $110 n/a n/a
>> 7 M down 1 M up $840 $110 n/a n/a
>>
>> MegaCentral:
>> 1.544 Mbps $455 $500 ** n/a
>> 3 Mbps $967 $500 $674.50 $840.27
>> Each additional
>> 3 Mbps + $239
>> to previous fee $500 n/a n/a
>>
>> MegaPak $59.95 $199*** n/a n/a
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------
>> ----------
>> ----
>> In addition to the above charges, the MegaLine, MegaOffice,
>> MegaBusiness and
>> MegaBit customers will need to buy a Netspeed Modem or PCI card from
>> U S WEST for their computer. The price for this ranges from $199 to
>> $299.
>>
>> MegaBit Services provide users with a fast-paced connection to
>> either a
>> corporate LAN or the Internet. Both the data and voice traffic
>> travel on the
>> same pair of telephone wires so the user may use the phone while
>> working on
>> the computer. The customer's phone service remains the same and the
>> customer
>> continues to pay the current charges for residential or business
>> phone
>> service. The pricing of MegaBit Services does not include pricing of
>> phone
>> service.
>> *Asynchronous Transfer Mode Optical Access Link =F1 Certain
parameters
>> need to
>> be met. Contact your sales representative for further information.
>>
>> **** so folks the issue of bandwidth may not be that much of a deal
>> if your
>> target market consists of folks with speed. However, if you are
>> addressing
>> the larger universal market, well then it is.
>> Perhaps a dual Flash site based upon speed?
>>
>>
>>
>>
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