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Subject: RE: FLASH: Site structure in flash
From: Jean Dukate
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1998 18:19:23 +0100

Sounds like your beef is with the individual ISPs not Macromedia. Are
you asking Macromedia to drop their prices because of your experience
with ISPs. First you complain about the cost of the Generator being too
high $2,999 then you complain about the developers tools being too high.
These prices are NOT too high when you consider their usage and who they
are marketed towards. True these tools aren't going to be readily
available to everyone that wants to play around with the newest internet
tools. They are marketed towards high-end users who want to deliver
dynamic content and work with companies that have some big bucks to pay
for development and maintainence of these type of sites. Flash on the
other hand allows for both professionals and non-professionals to
publish animated movies and content on the web. It is designed for a
larger market than what Generator is being designed for hence the lower
price for Flash. The market shrinks when you consider that
non-professionals may be turned away from Generator based web sites when
they realize that their ISP maintenance cost will most likely be higher.
Perhaps in time the developers tools may drop in price(and perhaps not)
but to ask Macromedia to drop their server based tools because of your
bad experiences with ISPs is rather silly. There is alot of development
tools out there that carry high prices mainly because they have a
smaller market base. Same applies for Generator. I think Macromedia
realizes that there will be a smaller market base than what there is for
Flash. I can understand your frustration/pain but at the same time I
can't yell at a companies like Alias or Softimage because I can't afford
their software and I really want to use it.

You have to understand that publishing a site that has Flash content
doesn't envolve any extra ISP charges than delivering a site that is
composed of simple jpg, gif files because it is all done via plugin. But
a Generator based site will most likely cost more due to increased ISP
charges because it envolves a server based tool. Hopefully you can see
how that effects the target market and the price.


> ----------
> From: Chris Jester (CTS
> Technical)[SMTP:a-chrisjatmicrosoft [dot] com]
> Reply To: flasheratshocker [dot] com
> Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 1998 7:31 PM
> To: flasheratshocker [dot] com
> Subject: RE: FLASH: Site structure in flash
>
> And those sites would be?
> You also said "Any Flash designer can upgrade to the Generator
> Developers
> Studio at low cost" ($199.00 from macromedia's web site. This is for
> the
> upgrade, if you don't have the prior generator, which I am sure many
> don't
> have.It will be $499.00 Which is more than Flash itself!)"
>
> What I am trying to say is because flash driven sites are still new to
> the
> market place and with the cost of the generator being so high, those
> who do
> have it I don't know if I would go with them.
>
> They tend to be the very big companies who yes have a lot of customers
> and
> yes do have a lot of $$$ but based on personal experience try calling
> up one
> of those places and getting help with problems like Mime not being set
> on
> the server etc.. I hope you have a headphone jack for your telephone
> because
> you will be sitting there for a long time.
>
> hey press one for an answering machine in Spanish press two for an
> answering
> machine in French and for...
>
> My .02
> Jester
>
>
>

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