Re: FLASH: BP: OT Please - not frames!

[Ben Park]

Thanx for the link Daniel, but I can't see myself paying those prices for

net stats....

Not that I'm cheap or anything, but I can't afford that sort of money for

net stats.


Ben


-----Original Message-----

From: Daniel H <

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Date: 01 April 2000 06:11

Subject: Re: FLASH: BP: OT Please - not frames!



>I agree with you about frames. HTML2.0 tacky. Right along with 'hit'

>counters IMO ;). Our company tries to steer our clients away from them.

>Anywho, Perhaps helping him look through the eyes more will help. Perhaps

>refering to to www.statmarket.com which hosts a colabiration of data on the

>internet may help him understand?

>

>HTH

>Daniel Harris

>----- Original Message -----

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From: Ben Park <parkibaldsiteria [dot] net>

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To: Flash Discussion List <flasherchinwag [dot] com>

>Sent: Wednesday, March 29, 2000 12:32 PM

>Subject: FLASH: BP: OT Please - not frames!

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>

>Hi Everyone

>

>I recently designed a web site, with no flash (although I'm thinking of

>adding it in the future, as I love it - I use it on my site!)

>The site I designed is not amazing or anything, but it had the kind of

>cartoony feel, that he wanted.

>

>Anyway, the client was happy and loved the site.

>Since then, one person complained that it wasn't using frames, as they

>prefered this (theres always one user that spoils it for everyone, isnt

>there!?), so the client has started pestering me into changing the whole

>site into frames.

>

>I understand his arguments, but I don't think it is the way to go. For

>starters I hate frames - they always look tacky....

>Here's the URL of the site as I designed it  - it's

>http://www.dive-pro-select.co.uk

>

>His argument is to put the cylinders on the left in the left frame and

>remove the diver from the top left corner. He also wishes to remove the

>buttons across the top and move the title up.

>Problem is, no matter how I explain it to him, I cannot seem to get through

>to him, that when viewed in a resolution below the one he uses (1024x768)

>people would have to scroll twice in the screen, and that would look

>terrible.

>

>He is also pressuring me to put in an "enter" page. Now, I could agree, but

>having a slow connection myself, I see no purpose for a page with only one

>option on it. It just makes everything load slower and wastes everyones

>time. Now, if it were to load another page in the background somehow, that

>would be useful.

>But it serves no purpose whatsoever.

>He claims he likes a competitors site - http://www.clubscuba.com

>but I think that is taking a step-back from what he already has.

>On Clubscuba, I like the look of the enter page (although pointless), but I

>think that the rest is so cheap-looking, I would feel ripped off if I had

>got it for free....and he didn't.

>

>What do you all think anyway?

>Should I give in and re-draw the entire site using frames?

>

>Ben

>P.S. I'm not receiving any money from the design of this site. The "client"

>is a member of my family.

>P.P.S. Sorry for this off-topic

>----------------------------------------------------

>Ben Park

>Owner/Designer/Creator of Siteria

>

Email: parkibaldsiteria [dot] net

>Website: http://www.siteria.net

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