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Subject: RE: UKNM: The 'free' in free ISP now a commodity
From: Bunder, Leslie
Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 11:06:48 +0100

I suspect the reason why BT is offering 0800 access (at weekends only)
is to be seen as offering something to Net users.

Alas, when you take into consideration that the free 0800 access only
applies at weekends and then only applies if you pay �11.75 a month for
Net access, you really have to work out is that a good deal for the
average Net user.

I would be interested to see user patterns eg: how many users go online
at weekends at for how long on average. No doubt BT has worked this is
all out and that's why they are offering the 0800 access.

Also, given the BT still wishes to promote and offer BT Internet, it is
an ideal way to keep their existing customers and grab a few more in the
process.

At the end of the day, there is no such thing as a free lunch and indeed
free calls and somewhere down the line you are paying for it!

Leslie
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>From: Rick Sareen[SMTP:rickatmedia21 [dot] co [dot] uk]
>Sent: 15 June 1999 14:45
>To: uk-netmarketingatchinwag [dot] com
>Subject: Re: UKNM: The 'free' in free ISP now a commodity
>
>At 11:10 am +0000 15/6/99, Sam Michel wrote:
>
>>So, surely any company who is taking customer retention, loyalty, and
>>direct/database marketing seriously should be creating their own ISP?
>>
>>...or will the whole business model just disappear to the realms of big
>>telcos...the early entrants aside? Is there any space left in the free ISP
>>space for the new kids on the block? Aren't they wasting their time?
>
>You'd have thought so, but as is looking increasingly likely, if we get
>unmetered xDSL for , oooh say �40 pm from Q4 '99, then the telco connect
>charge income will disappear for these folks and they will only have ad
>revenue to keep them afloat.
>
>Now as my partner Nick says (far too often), money follows audience. So I
>am beginning to think that Freeserve have spotted this and subscriber base
>is now the critical factor for them and thus the advertising to build
>customers. Notice the vertical markets they are attacking: they are going
>for depth and breadth. I predict (no dinner, sorry) that there will be a
>shake out in the market when this happens , starting with the 0800 offers
>(which are just a clever form of cross subsidy against the peak time
>users).
>
>But then, why are BT making 0800 services available?? Any conspiracy
>theorists got any ideas?
>
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