Re: RE: UKNM: Bad search engines

[Matthew Blake]

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I always thought that the Yahoo only charged for 'express listings', in

other words if you pay your $199 you are guaranteed consideration for

inclusion in their listings within 7 days.  My understanding was that this

wouldn't effect the editorial process at all, ie it doesn't ensure that you

will actually be included if your site isn't worthy and doesn't mean that

your placing will be any better than sites submitted that don't pay.

Furthermore, last time I looked into this it only related to e-commerce

sites that would come under the category of 'Business & Economy: (whatever)'

(hence Packard Bell being classified as Business & Economy: Business To

Business: etc etc).  So for the vast majority (if not all) of their listings

it's all down to editorial discretion and is absolutely free.

The information supplied by Google is merely supplementary to their

directory, in much the same way as that which was supplied by Inktomi used

to be.


Matt B


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Regards

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Matt Blake

Online Marketing Executive

British Tourist Authority

http://www.visitbritain.com

MBlakebta [dot] org [dot] uk

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>> "Richard Bailey" <RBaileygodado [dot] com> 07/27 6:04 PM >>>

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From: ownerchinwag [dot] com [ownerchinwag [dot] com]On">mailto:ownerchinwag [dot] com]On Behalf Of

>

Speechradaol [dot] com

> Sent: 27 July 2000 17:04

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> Subject: Re: UKNM: Bad search engines

>

>  At www.godado.co.uk we rarely get any complaints- and therefore never get

>  mentioned on this forum >>

>

> OK, you're useless.  Why charge people for entry? Google (a

> complete mystery

> to me how they make money)


Actually there's no mystery: they sell the technology services

behind the engine to other net businesses.


> gives me top 3 placements if I type speechradio

> and as far as I can recall I've never paid anyone a penny for a listing.


Though typing in 'speech radio', a far more likely

event, yields no such bounty.  Though a single entry

at #4 is still not too shabby.


> As far as bidding for keywords ..... don't even understand what you're

> talking about.


Another mystery?


Well, it would appear that a person offers money

(or "bids") to the site in order that he/she appears

at or near the top of the search results when a

particular search term (or "keyword") is typed in

by a user.


Hence: "bidding for keywords".


HTH.


[sigh]


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Goole are now part of Yahoo (or vv) and you can pay for a Yahoo site

listing.  And it can be 1000's.  And check out the search for Packard bell

here...

http://search.yahoo.com/bin/search?p=packardbell


This first page is the pay one and this is the one with all the free

results...

http://google.yahoo.com/bin/query?p=packardbell&hc=0&hs=4

Notice the URL...

We are just open about how much they are paying. The user is the commodity

and pays nothing.


Richard Bailey

Internet Sales Executive

www.Godado.co.uk

RBaileyGodado [dot] com

Tel: +44 (0)20 7236 7722



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