RE: UKNM: plug-in take up/stats

[Robin Edwards]

On Tuesday, April 27, 1999 6:33 PM, Phil Gyford [SMTP:

philgyford [dot] com

] wrote:

> At 17:15 27/04/1999 +0100, you wrote:

>

> >Depends on what you mean by large, but try

> >

> >http://www.entexpress.com

>

> Tell me you're not holding this up as an example of good web design!?


Nope, just answering the original question (name a large site that uses frames)


>

> >http://shoppersuniverse.co.uk

>

> I don't see how those frames offer anything a non-frame site couldn't do.


Couldn't agree more, but still fits the bill.


> >http://www.eu.levi.com/

>

> "Oooh, a let's pop a new window out and design to that because it's easier

> than bothering with all those nasty variably-sized windows people have."


Yup, a complete dog to navigate IMHO, but still a large site that uses frames.


If a site uses frames, and the users are happy, then the client will generally 

be happy. If the users complain in large numbers (or stop coming) because of 

the frames, and the agency says to the client, "Stuff 'em, we're sticking with 

frames" then the client should look elsewhere.


We could go around in circles for ever, bitching about technology that we 

love/hate (I hope we won't), but at the end of the day you should look at the 

site and ask if it performs its task to the best of its ability. If not, and it 

is causing poor performance (e.g. low sales, negative effect on branding, too 

few visitors) then change it, either by using a more appropriate technology, or 

making better use of the one you've got. I cannot think of any existing web 

technology that has no benefit whatsoever, and I wouldn't rule out any simply 

because there are some (many) bad examples of its use out there.


Robin


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