RE: FLASH: flash to combat browser issues -JavaScript vs Flash plug-in

[Mats Persson]

Fortune Elkins wrote:


> it seems that more people have Flash installed than have javascript

activated in their

> browsers. some of our corporate clients apparently still have javascript

> deactivated for security reasons, so with Flash i can give 'em all kinds

of

> cool stuff with no security risk!



I have gotten the 'JavaScript is dangerous' arguement from both friends and

clients. Not being a JavaScript guru I wonder "How real is this 'threat' ?"

???


Wouldn't the same people be equally 'paranoid' about downloading the Flash

plug-in ??


AND wouldn't the same security risks apply with both JavaScript and Flash ??



I've also heard/experienced that Flash - and other plug-ins - are not

allowed to be installed in big corporate networks.


How is MM / other developers addressing these concerns ?


Does MM have an 'education program for paranoid IS/IT managers' ??



I'd be interested in any further information relating to this.


regards,


Mats

matsimediatec [dot] co [dot] uk

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Subject: RE: FLASH: flash to combat browser issues



yes, i am in the process of moving our ASP website over to all-flash just

for this reason.


about 1/3 of our clients use older Netscapes on Solaris and dealing with it

is just too hairy. very difficult to maintain for all variants.


so i have successfully argued that i can use Flash to give more

funtionality, more visual impact, smaller files, and easier maintenance. by

loading all my text from external files, any office monkey can keep the site

up-to-date.


with just your standard logo, side bar, rollover menus and a page of text my

average page in DW3 was coming out to 25-30k. 15k of that was just the 4

state menu! with flash 5, i can give exactly the same basic page but with a

nicer, more interesting background, better rollover effect, and a clearer

jpg at only 14k. less than the darned menu in HTML! that doesn't include the

SWFX i load for the rotating sales messages that the marketing guys so

adore, but those would be the same size no matter what the page was made in.


even tho we have a guaranteed T1 corporate audience, this argument found

favor. i am now going to develop all web pages, forms, etc. in flash alone,

using the file size argument as the engineering hook. further, it seems that

more people have Flash installed than have javascript activated in their

browsers. some of our corporate clients apparently still have javascript

deactivated for security reasons, so with Flash i can give 'em all kinds of

cool stuff with no security risk!


hth,


f



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