RE: FLASH: Let me rephrase my question about Flash and Director

[Branden J. Hall]

Actaully, when I got started in flash there wasn't much out there supoort

wise, I just taught myself and due to my background was able to pick up

flash very rapidly.  Less than a month into the program I was teaching

others...


I am very aware of the possibility of over populating the market with flash

developers, however, in helping people I find that a.) I push myself even

harder, and thus keep getting better and b.) I get such joy from getting the

occasional email from a complete stranger thanking me for teaching them

something new.


-= Branden J. Hall

-= Multimedia Developer/Instructor

-= Fig Leaf Software

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Sent: Friday, November 19, 1999 2:00 AM

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Subject: RE: FLASH: Let me rephrase my question about Flash and Director



I hear what you are saying Branden but frankly that's not how I think. I

also get a kick out of helping someone out with a problem, it's a nice

feeling when you can contribute to someone else's knowledge. But then on

the other hand I understand where you are coming from where sharing your

knowledge may increase the numbere of people who are "capable" at flash

and so in the process overpopulate the market. Making it harder for you

to charge good rates because any Tom Dick or Harriet can come along and

say "Oh I know flash, I'll do it for less".


Maybe I was implying a guilt trip but in the end its your choice and

feeling guilt or not should have nothing to do with helping or not

helping someone out. I'll bet that in the beginning when you were also a

newbie with flash you also asked questions and other people took time

and effort to help you out. For example my parents have cared for me,

nurtured me and gone to great lengths to provide the best possible life

for me, now they are reaching a time in their lives where they also need

some caring and nurturing. Just because I "don't have time" or "I want

to make more money" does not mean that I wont make time for them and

"pay back" what they have given me. Not because it's the right thing to

do, but because it's a good feeling to repay kindness. It's a sad fact

that people will not do something if there is no kick back for them.

There are very few people - and I am not one of them - who will

selfishly put others before themselves and their jobs to help them out.

It's a cruel world and it's definitely not fair, but then I am na�ve and

often blindly believe the world is fair. I feel that the reason why we

are on this list is to help out new people AND learn from people above

us, to push the barriers of Flash AND knowledge interaction.


Give and take... take and give. Never ever give and give. And those who

take and take are always caught out. Money is not everything and yet we

are all obsessed with it.


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 -----Original Message-----

From: 	Branden J. Hall [

bjhallelasticx [dot] com (mailto:bjhallelasticx [dot] com)

]

Sent:	Friday, November 19, 1999 8:33 AM

To:

flasherchinwag [dot] com

Subject:	RE: FLASH: Let me rephrase my question about Flash and

Director


"Just remember everyone was a newbie once and if "professionals" (

unlike

myself ) don't have the time to help out newbies then they are being

very selfish. "


Sorry man, I have to *totally* disagree with you here.  Some of use

choose

to help others because we enjoy it, not because its the "right" thing to

do.

Knowledge always comes at a price. In this case it costs myself and

others

on the list time, and hence quite possibly money to spread knowledge

about

flash.  If we weren't paying, others would be, by purchasing  classes,

books, etc.  It is, in fact, adventageous to a certain extent for me to

keep

people from learning flash, since I teach courses about it.  I could

just

say "Hey, thats covered in the class, come take it to find out" to any

question that floated my way.  I have just chosen to do otherwise.


I think that J.C., Marc Hoffman, and all of the other list regulars

would

agree with me in saying that we help because we like to, not because a

guilt

trip.


-= Branden J. Hall

-= Multimedia Developer/Instructor

-= Fig Leaf Software






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