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| Subject: | RE: Talking about Bandwidth-Some People Are Missing The REAL ISSUE |
| From: | Carrie Dailey |
| Date: | Sun, 24 May 1998 02:34:16 +0100 |
"I" won't be out of work as a designer because "THANK GOD" there actually
are companies and organizations that want to utilize the advancements in
design and emphasize their artistic personnas online. I must admit, most of
my recent projects have been done for the intranet market. Here, your
bandwidth problems aren't quite as pronounced, you don't have to deal with
platform issues, and your audience is, for the most part, clearly defined.
However, I have 2 projects waiting in the wings that will be published for
the general public on the web. I am NOT a developer...I am a designer, an
artist, and I make that plain in my "self-advertisement" to generate
business. The clients who seek me out in my small area of the country are
seeking exactly what you seem to be denying that there is a market for.
I really do see valid points in your arguements but your situation does not
apply to all. If we learn anything from the commercialism of our time, we
should know that THERE IS A MARKET FOR ANYTHING.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner
shocker [dot] com [ownershocker [dot] com]On">mailto:ownershocker [dot] com]On Behalf Of Chris> Jester (CTS Technical)
> Sent: Thursday, May 21, 1998 2:34 PM
> To: flasher
shocker [dot] com> Subject: RE: Talking about Bandwidth-Some People Are Missing The REAL
> ISSUE
>
>
> If you go by this theory you will be out of business as a web
> designer. You
> can't force people to go out and get faster modems and connections. By
> creating this huge great idea, it will fail. If someone has to
> wait for your
> "great" movie, it will not be great any longer. Why? Because they have to
> wait and nothing will flow as you designed to. Unless it is supposed to be
> slow and choppy. Don't get me wrong I love Flash and many others. I think
> it's the best thing to come along for the internet, however; By creating
> projects that end up being slow and massive it will be a turn off for the
> end customer.
>
> Look at any major site ie microsoft.com, ibm.com, netscape.com,
> macromedia.com, etc... They might use Flash, but the projects are not
> massive and tend to small and easy to download. These companies have done
> there demographic research and realized that by creating large
> websites that
> are "neat" to look at the end up cutting out a certain portion of there
> target audience. Some people don't 'ant to wait for some animation to get
> done. They want it quick and easy.
>
> That's my $.02
>
> Jester_boy
> "Keep your eyes on the prize!"
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Carrie Dailey [SMTP:struxure
stc [dot] net]> Sent: Thursday, May 21, 1998 7:43 AM
> To: flasher
shocker [dot] com> Subject: RE: Talking about Bandwidth-Some People Are Missing
> The REAL ISSUE
>
> A lot of people seem to be focusing on the wrong perspective in the
> connection speed/bandwidth discussion going on. Let's try to shift
> to
> another perspective here for a minute.
>
> Supply & Demand
> We all know this theory. If a need or a demand for a certain
> service,
> product, whatever, is generated or discovered, industry kicks in and
> increases the supply. At the same time, prices for the "whatever"
> usually
> drop as manufacturers and providers begin to compete for your $$.
> We have witnessed this on grand scales repeatedly over the years:
>
> --I bought a VCR in 1984 when they were "new" for $700! Today, you
> can get
> one 10 times as good as the one I bought for $150.
> --I purchased a 166mhz desktop when they were state-of-the-art for
> $2100.
> This morning, I saw one advertised with 2 times the RAM (Compaq
> Deskpro 2000
> sans monitor) for $499!!!
> --Consider the hard drive industry....Good God....6.4 gigs for
> $249????
> Imagine this 5 years ago!!!
> --My dad purchased an RCA 19" color TV in 1975 for $800. Today you
> can get
> an awesome 31" high res TV with stereo sound for that price.
>
> What I am getting at here is this...
> Don't gripe that developers/designers are producing content that you
> can't
> access. We should be begging EVERYONE to create content in this
> fashion.
> Make it bigger, more beautiful, more interactive, HUMONGOUS. If a
> majority
> of websites are inaccessible to low speed connection households or
> businesses, the technology giants will be literally SPEWING new, LOW
> COST,
> high speed connections for the general public and they will be
> BEGGING you
> to take it. DON'T HOLD IT BACK. Create the demand...the industry
> will
> provide the supply... AND they will do it on OUR terms.
>
>
> >
> > Yes that may be true, however because the majority of the people
> on the
> > internet today are on older connections, what I mean is 14.4,
> > 28.8 and 33.6
> > connection file size is still a big issue. In fact the ADSL is not
> even
> > available in some areas here in Washington and Cable modems are
> not
> > available in all areas. I can't get on to cable modem until next
> year when
> > they upgrade the existing cable lines. So please don't expect
> everyone is
> > going to have fast connection.
> > Jester_boy
> > "Keep your eyes on the prize!"
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Thepoet [SMTP:thepoet
mci2000 [dot] com]> > Sent: Wednesday, May 20, 1998 3:21 PM
> > To: flasher
shocker [dot] com> > Subject: Talking about Bandwidth
> >
> > Recently many people were talking about movie sizes being
> too large
> > at 500k
> > etc. Currently this is true for most people, BUT, the
> situation is
> > beggining
> > to change in many places in the country. For example here in
> > Colorado and
> > Arizonia as well, the local RBOC-US Worst ...er... West
> > is starting up their ADSL
> > Here is a price comparison of their services. Please note
> that the
> > $40.00
> > per moth price includes use of the ADSL modem IF you use US
> Worst
> > for your
> > ISP (an additional 19.95 for unlimited access)
> > from
> http://www.uswest.com/com/customers/interprise/dsl/pricing.html
> > in case
> > you want more info.
> >
> > The following prices are based on a one year contract.
> Pricing state
> > to
> > state may vary. Product Per
> > month fee Initial
> > set-up fee ATM OAL*
> > Per Month Install
> >
> > MegaLine (256k) $40 $110 n/a n/a
> > MegaOffice (512k) $62.40 $110 n/a n/a
> > MegaBusiness (768k) $76.80 $110 n/a n/a
> >
> > MegaBit:
> > 1 M down 1 M up $120 $110 n/a n/a
> > 4 M down 1 M up $480 $110 n/a n/a
> > 7 M down 1 M up $840 $110 n/a n/a
> >
> > MegaCentral:
> > 1.544 Mbps $455 $500 ** n/a
> > 3 Mbps $967 $500 $674.50 $840.27
> > Each additional
> > 3 Mbps + $239
> > to previous fee $500 n/a n/a
> >
> > MegaPak $59.95 $199*** n/a n/a
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------------------------------------------
> > ----------
> > ----
> > In addition to the above charges, the MegaLine, MegaOffice,
> > MegaBusiness and
> > MegaBit customers will need to buy a Netspeed Modem or PCI
> card from
> > U S WEST for their computer. The price for this ranges from
> $199 to
> > $299.
> >
> > MegaBit Services provide users with a fast-paced connection
> to
> > either a
> > corporate LAN or the Internet. Both the data and voice
> traffic
> > travel on the
> > same pair of telephone wires so the user may use the phone
> while
> > working on
> > the computer. The customer's phone service remains the same
> and the
> > customer
> > continues to pay the current charges for residential or
> business
> > phone
> > service. The pricing of MegaBit Services does not include
> pricing of
> > phone
> > service.
> > *Asynchronous Transfer Mode Optical Access Link � Certain
> parameters
> > need to
> > be met. Contact your sales representative for further
> information.
> >
> > **** so folks the issue of bandwidth may not be that much of
> a deal
> > if your
> > target market consists of folks with speed. However, if you
> are
> > addressing
> > the larger universal market, well then it is.
> > Perhaps a dual Flash site based upon speed?
> >
> >
> >
> >
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