whast all this: copying stuff

[Thepoet]

Everyone on the list keeps saying that they can look at a swf and see how

its made. OK, I downloaded and ran the swifter.exe which all it could do was

unprotect the file so that I could see ONE time line and NOT the individual

or shall I say original *.fla format, vis a vis the tweening, the different

layers, preview mode etc. Again all I saw was one time line which was

relative to bandwidth.


Now I agree that copying is bad and actually stupid, but being able to see

how its done by examining the tweening, the layers could help me design some

other ideas (I plan on doing a study of Baroque art using the hidden

meanings in some of Vermeers and Caravaggio's pertaining...so its safe to

say that I will not be copying anyone...will be part of a CD on Semiotics of

Art....relative to Umberto Eco)

thus my questions..........................

Is there another program that allows one to view the layers, the tweening

and perhaps go into preview mode.

am I missing something?

Does this only work on a Mac?

Is there something that I am nit doing?


Thanks from an old middle aged newbee who just wants to learn.

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Date: Thursday, May 07, 1998 10:00 AM

Subject: Re: MM porn/copying - relax pls!



>While there's plenty of intelligent folks chiming in on this, I am

>compelled to take a few whacks at the bell myself.

>

>There's a big difference between being inspired by something and outright

>stealing it. It is true that often what is innovative is merely a clever

>augmentation of a pre-existing idea. Creating works which reflect

>inspiration from other creative works is a perfectly legitimate practice.

>Simply taking someones creative works, slightly altering it for your own

>purposes, and putting your name on it is theft. It is petty, it is slimey,

>it is cheap, it is lame, etc. etc. etc.

>

>While those who defend theft like this are likely those who engage in it,

>the really pathetic thing is that they are trying to do it n the name of

>the Internet's freedom of expression, etc. If the Internet become a place

>where it's open season on creative designs, ideas and such, creative ideas

>and such will begin to stop showing up on the Internet. The Internet is not

>"Wanna-Be Haven." Unlike Ben and Wayne, there are those of us who don't

>want the Internet to become a place where loosers run free stealing

>everything they can get their hands on. If that happens, the whole Internet

>will be as skanky as all the porn sites.

>

>Despite the fact that I am a devout fundamental Christian (an extremely

>imperfect one, mind you), I essentially defend the right for sleazeballs to

>post raw pictures, etc--that's freedom of expression--that's what must be

>protected even if I think it's bogus and, of course, I believe this sort of

>thing is wrong, sinful, etc. But stealing stuff on the Internet is not

>defendable.

>

>Saying that Internet theft is wrong is not "whining." In essence guys like

>Ben Rottler are whining. They are using pathetically flawed arguements in a

>lame attempt to undermine the legitimate objections to an amazingly

>grotesque and flagrant theft. People protesting theft aren't

>whining--people who defend theft are probably just whining about that fact

>that we are trying to keep them from doing what they want to do: steal and

>get away with it. To my eyes/ears, the bogus "the Internet is free, man,

>you can't fight it" argument is just a lame annoying whine.

>

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