Re: FLASH: salary in SF

[Neal Cabage]

This is a very interesting topic and I am sure a lot of us are curious (if

for no other reason) how this would relate to each of us.  So let's

arbitrarily pick a salary and three cities and do some comparisons.  Let's

put some sort of benchmark to the conversation ...


1. If a person makes $50k in LA and goes to SF then::

    a. what would the realistic income expectations be of that person in SF

(eg how much would they be offered)?

    b. how much would result in a comprable life style in SF?


2. If a person makes $50k in Seattle and goes to SF then::

    a. what would the realistic income expectations be of that person in SF

(eg how much would they be offered)?

    b. how much would result in a comprable life style in SF?


3. If a person makes $50k in Atlanta and goes to SF then::

    a. what would the realistic income expectations be of that person in SF

(eg how much would they be offered)?

    b. how much would result in a comprable life style in SF?



If we can answer these questions, then we could effectively assess the

differences between income, cost of living, and quality of living

opportunities for each of us in SF, as opposed to these other cities.


:)


Neal



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From: Michael Penney <

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Sent: Friday, July 07, 2000 10:48 PM

Subject: Re: FLASH: salary in SF



> Balthaser.com is a pretty big, well-off company. A flash designer working

> for them should have no problem affording a family sized apartment in SF,

if

> you will on the salary they offered you, then I would suggest you

> re-negotiate before taking the job. Sacramento is not an option for a

daily

> job (unless they offer off-peak rush hour hours & free parking). Speaking

> hypothetically, making 30k in SF is about like making 15k (ie minimum

wage)

> in most of the rest of the US, so if you are a quality web designer you

> would be able to do much better elsewhere if they are offering some rock

> bottom starting salary. Sacramento is much cheaper than SF, but not an

> option if they expect you to be in SF every day (though its only about 60

> miles, in SF rush hour traffic it will take you 2-3 hours to get there, an

> hour or 20$ to find parking, and the daily accidents can make this commute

> even longer).

>

> I've heard 'big US corporations' are pushing H1 visas because they have a

> hard time finding trained US citizens to start for 30k. This plays well on

> mainstreet US because in much of the country 30k is a pretty decent,

nearly

> living wage for a family. However, if you find that these companies are

> trying to find skilled computer workers in SF, LA, NYC, etc. for 30k its

no

> wonder they have a hard time finding US citizens; 30k is a fast-food

> worker's salary in the big cities, certainly nothing someone with advanced

> computer skills would be willing to starve for.

>

> (note: I have no idea nor even a guess what they are offering you, the

above

> numbers are just examples I made up for reference or pulled from published

> sources)

>

>

> > have been offered a job with Balthaser (Balthaser.com) do you know

anything

> > about them?? I am hoping to further myself greatly in my Flash knowledge

at

> > work( I know Flash but I am not Joshua Davis) and maybe 3D as well(with

night

> > courses perhaps), I know there are good schools(recommendation welcome)

there

> > but am I dreaming that all is gold and honey????

> >

> >

> > thanks for any comments and suggestions in advance

> >

> >

> > Stuart

> >

>

> >

>

> =====>

> Michael Penney

> Sharpener of the Cutting Edge

> BigTimeWeb.Com

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