RE: FLASH: Salaries

[JGL]

I'm gonna have to say Gahlord has a point here. It is true, if you are good

at what you do, you can command the price, and keep working. A well

knowledge rounded individual with progreamming *and* design skills Plus good

project management skills, rules! And if you are able to get the work done

in a no nonsense way, prospects know you are worth the bucks - That's just

the facts . . .


jgl


"To get what you want . . .

you have to atleast express as much"


-----Original Message-----

Russell

E. Unger


I think your ego may be a bit out of check, but I don't know much.


If I'm getting paid 125k per year, I'd CERTAINLY better not be doing any

type of

design or coding work, and my title had better have "Director", at the

least.


As far as a salary at 80k and the hours you described, you may be a bit out

of

touch with how things are actually working in the internet space.  Right

now,

people that have similar attitudes to yours (and I'm not trying to slam you,

so

please don't take it wrong) are the ones that are being left

behind--especially

when there are persons who can do that job that will take a bit less and/or

options.  Fact of the matter is, if you are getting 40 hour weeks, you're

damn

lucky or not in the internet industry.


That, of course, is MY opinion, and based solely upon my experience.


Russ


Gahlord Dewald wrote:


> 15/hr is ridiculously low. I charge 100/hr and do quite well. New York can

> climb up to 325/hr (better be a good programmer _and_ a good designer for

> that). But that's all subcontract/freelance.

>

> I wouldn't take a salary below 80k and that better be a choice position

> where I go home at 5pm every day, don't work weekends, and have an Aeron

to

> sit in. 125k seems to be the salary number I hear and see most often.

>

> As for where you live, the fact that you live in an inexpensive place

should

> help you lower your rates some, but the reality is it's you that lives

> there, not the client. If someone's trying to weasel your rate down

because

> you live in some place that's cheap you'd be best finding work from

someone

> who needs you more than they do (let them hire those 15/hr guys out there

> and see what they get).

>

> IMHO, a good flash developer has both programming and creative skills. The

> programming strategies and creative vision he or she brings to the table

are

> in most cases unique. No one would design the way I do (or maybe no one

> would want to ;) ) and no one would approach a programming situation in

> exactly the same way I do (again, maybe no one would want to). Aside from

> your laundry list of great commodified knowledge, you contain unique

> abilities and insights that are priceless. Be confident in that, and don't

> commoditize yourself. Because there's always some jr high schooler willing

> to work for cheaper.

>

> Of course, if you have to pay rent and you aren't bringing down the big

> bucks then do what you gotta do. But best to concentrate on attracting

> clients who are willing to support your livelihood and method of problem

> solving (both creative and technical) then getting sucked into the safety

of

> regular money (and dog hours and tight deadlines and not enough resources

> etc.). If necessary, consult a business coach.

>

> I guess that might've been 4 cents worth :)

>

> g

>

> Gahlord Dewald

>

gahlordweedsmedia [dot] com

> Weeds Media Consortium

> www.weedsmedia.com





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