Re: FLASH: IE for Mac (was: IE 5 without Flash?)

[Sahlan Sim�n Cherpitel]

hi all,


having a go round myself with IE on mac re flash & crash, am tossing my ten

pence in


PROS & CONS, NS & IE on Mac --- & anybody please correct or clue me in where

i'm mistaken or unaware!


IE5 is a better browser now, if it would just stop misbehaving. IE4.5 was

the same re crashes & causing lockups. & i'm not sure if 5 beta wasn't more

stable. i think it was in final beta release of Mar 5.


I use both, and generally agree with James and totally with Cregg attached

below.


Best NS version i think was 4.5. if i can find it, i may reload. but who

knows with os9, which i may give up for 8.6, until X becomes supported.

4.6 & 4.7 seemed to crash more, though only a fraction of what IE does.


NS supports dynamic fonts.  Some sites are better geared for NS and overall

most sites work better in NS than IE.


HOWEVER, & here's why i made IE my default recently:


IE's superior handling of bookmarks (though 'favorites' to me is a dumb

pseudo-homey term).  One can rename bookmarks which is veddy veddy neat if

one accumulates the quantity i do. IE5 also thankfully dumped those goofy

distracting side tabs. And the lite blue is nicer.


IE is far better at saving web pages in their original format.  It seems to

me NS did this better back in 4.5 although my mind in this sort of recall is

rammed out


Other than that i decided to go with IE because it's now got the market.

One site i visit has shown that NS visits have dropped from 35-40% last sept

to 20-25% now.  Whereas IE had 50-55% in sept, it now has about 70%.


This is too bad.


Mozilla is not yet ready for prime time. There's a couple of simple things

like cut n paste that i think it could not yet do in the public alpha in

march.


NS communicator was pretty good email, & nice to have in the browser.

When i switched to IE, i switched to outlook.


Outlooks got better handling of address book aka 'contacts'. It's great to


save msgs in simpletext. However version .02 (prior to .03 that came with

IE5 release--if i've got the numbers right) let you pick your mac sounds for

mail, while now you're stuck with the very limited ms batch (i liked to hear

the giggle when there was no mail).


However, if i want to 'purify' a jpeg before sending it out, i email it to

myself & fetch from NS communicator where it will drag off as a simple web

doc.  Drag it from IE & you get a useless 'clipping'.


NOW if you're still reading, here's what i wonder: did gates make a deal

with aol to scuttle NS--quietly?  Why else with aol's deep pockets would

they by default dump 50% of the browser market which NS still surely had

when they acquired the company??? Maybe the deal included ms going soft on

its network push which allowed aol to become stronger. My feelings about aol

are about the same as about ms, but that's another story.


Gate's single strongest legal argument was that IE was a better browser. It

was not at the time of that piece of testimony but it is now.


This may be one of the linchpins of his appeals process, and by the time the

appeals are heard there'll be no question of how much better IE is in

comparison with NS.


HOWEBER, i dearly hope i'm wrong & the new NS 5 or 6 will revive us all, be

stable & do all that IE does better & then some. God willing, & the satanic

powers of the companies that be beavering away diligently crafting their

best designs for us.


Maybe aol didn't care to push it, or it was part of the deal with ms, and

they'll go whole gobblies to town, making NS default on aol instead of IE,

and retake the market.


If anyone's got other pluses & minuses re NS v. IE, i'd love to hear them.


kind regards & pardon me if anything i said offended anyone.


sahlan



REF msgs:



From: "James Cutts" <

jamesinone [dot] co [dot] uk

>



> Why oh why oh why does anybody with a Mac use IE?


So are you suggesting we all use Netscape?

Ive found problems with Navigator not recognising MIME types.

And IE is a better piece of software on the whole and it works

better with DHTML sites.


> And do you think that Bill

> Gates really gives a damn about Mac users?


Well, yes. He has shares in the company after all...


> There is a choice, if you didn't use IE you wouldn't have these problems.

> The IE Mac market must be so small as to not be worth the bother anyway.


Shows how much you know about Apples ever increasing market share.


Yes everyone has a choice - so why are you trying to force your opinion down

our throats? Personally I use both Navigator and IE which solves any

problems - if a site doesnt work properly in one,

use the other. Why should we be loyal to only one?


Chill out dude....


J



From: "Gregg Caines" <

cainussprint [dot] ca

>



Netscape is better in one main regard... it works on all major operating

systems.  Unix is an OS that is used extensively (more than Mac) and

it has no version of IE.  However, because of the lack of standard

compliance on the part of both netscape and microsoft, I have to say

that both browsers are a real pain in the ass....Netscape seems to have

trouble with just about everything, and every new addition of IE brings

some technology that is further and further from the W3 consortium's

plan.  Let's just cross our fingers for mozilla. It would be nice to take

the web back from microsoft...


Gregg Caines




From:

jdowdellmacromedia [dot] com

 (John Dowdell)



At 1:04 PM 4/3/0, Robbert - Jan wrote:

> John Dowdell wrote:

> > (I'm not sure about the upcoming Netscape 6.)

>

> Let us first welcome Netscape 5, which is still just

> in a developer beta stage :)



uhm.... I guess I'm not sure about that one, either.



(Hey! has anybody seen the coffee machine around here...!? ;-)




jd



From: Brian Mays <

bmaysconnectok [dot] com

>


Thought I read an article that there is no Netscape 5, but jumping straight

to 6.


Brian Mays



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